tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2500482193567964002.post6889295043132998764..comments2023-10-18T01:40:44.271-07:00Comments on Mad Progress: Draft Post: Facebook Diversity DebateHarry Waisbrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04401198816952202554noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2500482193567964002.post-75204282374201650152009-12-23T14:23:40.224-08:002009-12-23T14:23:40.224-08:00It's all good stuff so I can see why you want ...It's all good stuff so I can see why you want to discuss it all. In terms of your three points, I'm not sure how much attention the #fbdiversity tag merits. Several of us were talking about the issue; we used a hashtag to make it easier to follow; great! But in a routine kind of a way -- the same thing happened with #hpfail and #montazeri and etc. etc. So I don't see this as at a peer with your other two.<br /><br />For assessing the terminology and conclusions, this post can be very valuable by summarizing and links out to the key points people have made. Rather than linking to Qworky's tweets, it would be better to link out to what Shireen, Beth, and Tracy tweeted and try to use their own words. And consider being more selective about what you're excerpting from Cheri's post. Do most Qworky readers care about the mixture-modeling technique? Probably not; and the ones that do will want to read her full post.<br /><br />Your point about danah is also good contribution (although the self-fulfilling prophecy has beend scussed to some extent). you probably want to tighten this section up some to be clearer where you see the relationships and what the implications are.<br /><br />Hope this helps!<br /><br />jon<br />highlightingjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740980228561158001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2500482193567964002.post-44381925406500323592009-12-23T12:06:38.634-08:002009-12-23T12:06:38.634-08:00Thanks for the feedback jon!
I wasn't sure ab...Thanks for the feedback jon!<br /><br />I wasn't sure about my phrasing for the motivation aspect, and although I tried to provide counter points the post probably does come off as overly accusatory. It's a fine line though when discussing the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect, and I do think it's an important question to assess in light of danah boyd's arguments.<br /><br />I can cut some of the word count if only by summarizing rather than quoting. I recognize that I'm trying to do a lot in this post, but it is a complicated issue worth the analysis---hoping I don't have to take out too much of the meat of the piece, and that minimizing quotes and condensing/cutting out some of the questions on motivations will do the trick.<br /><br />I'd say the three most important points I'm trying to make are as follows:<br /><br />1. Describing the genesis and potential future of the #FBdiversity tag<br /><br />2. Assessing the FB study's methodology and conclusions <br /><br />3. Analyzing the conclusions in the context of boyd's speech, and asking whether it is self-fulfilling prophecy ish.<br /><br />Thanks again for the feedback!<br /><br />--HarryHarry Waisbrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04401198816952202554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2500482193567964002.post-37732784656616536942009-12-22T17:31:55.141-08:002009-12-22T17:31:55.141-08:00It's a very good draft, Harry. Excellent appr...It's a very good draft, Harry. Excellent approach using danah's analysis as the framing. One thing I'd be careful with though is assuming motivation for the Facebook research team. It's shoddy research, but it probably is just due to lack of experience and trying to do something with the data they had available without thinking of the biases they were introducing.<br /><br />Otherwise my main concern with your post is the length -- over 1300 words, and we've generally been trying to keep posts on the Qworky blog to 500 words or less. So you might want to think about subsetting it ... you're probably trying to do too much in the one post. What are the three most important points you're trying to make?<br /><br />jonjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740980228561158001noreply@blogger.com